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32: I double-posted again, so please go to the previous post first-and, yeah-I know, this link takes you to the Columbus Dispatch's editorial...but the Blade saw fit to reprint it in their paper today (the 16th) under the heading "Another Opinion." (I'm currently getting a "free trial delivery" from the rag). That's an old trick of theirs...when you get tired of writing the same editorial 1500 times-let someone else do it for you. Tried to find it on the Blade's website, but couldn't.

http://www.dispatch.com/editorials-story.php?story=dispatch/2004/06/11/20040611-A10-00.html


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#33:
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040626/OPINION02/406260314/-1/ARCHIVES30


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#34 (Hmmm, two days in a row...must not have been enough terrorism going on...):
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040627/OPINION02/406270344


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...will breathe a lot easier if they follow Toledo's lead in opting for healthier, smoke-free public places.

...the township should join the march toward better health.

...an effort in Michigan to achieve a statewide ban, one which Republicans seem set to thwart. Their friends in the restaurant association and the chamber of commerce don't like it.

Michigan officials should be loath to be on the losing side of a positive national trend...These have caused little or no suffering to anyone but tobacco addicts who need to quit. The same is true in Ireland.

Toledo's ban is still being challenged by a handful of miscreant bar owners...

Fact is, ridding eateries and taverns of the noxious fumes of secondhand smoke hasn't smothered economic development....Clean air to most people, indoors or out, is a life-enhancing plus.

It also lowers medical costs from smoking-related health problems. And it cuts individual suffering from these myriad ailments, be they emphysema or cancer, heart disease, or circulatory problems.

Once again we urge the suburbs which surround Toledo to seize the moment, not resist it.

They could shorten their opinion pieces by just saying, "We're pro-health, anti-business, anti-property rights fanatics."

BTW, what kind of vehicles do these clean air journalists drive to work? If it's anything bigger than a Geo Metro I'd say they should downsize to avoid the hypocrite label.

And I hope to God they don't travel to a cottage on weekends or have flown to Disney World for a vacation.
 
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Worst part of all, Squeezer, John Robinson Block, the brother who's the most violently anti-smoker of the Block family, and still has total control over the rag's editorial page, doesn't even live in Toledo any more. When the family bought another paper (out-of state, think it was the Boston Post-Gazette), he moved there. Yet he still controls Toledo. Many years ago, it's said that his grandfather, who either started, or bought, the Blade, looked out his office window and said to his staff members who were there, "I'm going to remake this town in my own image." His prophecy has, alas, come true, albeit long after his death.


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#35: http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040701/OPINION02/407010372/-1/ARCHIVES30


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#36:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040720/OPINION02/407200318


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Originally posted by dave clark:
#36:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040720/OPINION02/407200318

"The main potential drawback of a buyout...is that it would solidify tobacco's status as a legal product rather than a target for eradication as the noxious substance..."

Geez, you think they might be a little anti-tobacco at that paper?

Christ Dave, MOVE!!!
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And to where? Yeah, the rag is a special case unto itself, as we all know, but the media all hold the same view wherever you go across the country.


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Firing the first salvo in Gearing up for the November vote, here's #37:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040815/OPINION02/40815004


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"Toledo’s smoking restrictions are part of a tide sweeping the country that began 40 years ago and cannot be reversed. Given the human toll that smoking wreaks, smokers have been accommodated far longer than justified."

[Geez, I say the same thing about blacks, Jews, Catholics, and homosexuals. They've all been accommodated far longer than justified. Oh wait, I just remembered I'm Catholic, scratch that one, but leave the rest on the list-They don't matter to me.]

"Stripped of its credibility, the tobacco lobby can no longer fight ordinances like Toledo’s head on, so it seeks to water them down with measures like the repeal proposal here and a similar issue on the ballot this fall in Columbus."

[Their failure to acknowledge the true source of who's fighting these ordinances shows their true colors: Lie if you must-Win by any means necessary.]

"Economic ruin hasn’t been visited on the states of New York, California, Massachusetts, Delaware, Maine, Rhode Island, and Connecticut, all of which have complete bans on smoking in public places. Many other states and hundreds of cities, including Minneapolis and Bloomington, Minn., have strong restrictions."

[Are all those state bans even in effect yet? Or Minneapolis?]

"For Toledo, repeal would make this city look like an irresolute and backward place. Decision-makers who consider where to locate businesses would reject the city as a place to live and work."

[With all due respect to Dave Clark, Toledo is a city I've never heard anything said of it, but as a joke. And what city was it I posted about recently, they softened their smoking ban to attract business.]

"Toledo once had a progressive image...when it was the first municipality in Ohio to approve a city income tax, which led to an era of optimism, prosperity, and improvements. We want to see that forward-looking image restored. The reputation of the city would only be harmed if the ban is repealed."

[I can tell you right now that if this newspaper thinks that having a city income tax is a good thing, and proud to have been the first to impose one no less, speaks volumes about it. I'll bet they cried at Stalin's funeral. Optimism, prosperity, and improvements? Sounds like a Communist slogan.]

"Assuming Toledoans uphold the current regulations — and we believe they will — other large and middle-sized cities will be prompted to enact similar ordinances. And weak-kneed suburban politicians might even muster the courage to follow Toledo’s strong and principled example."

[These people have some ego. Dave, get out before they throw you in the Gulag.]
 
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"Toledo once had a progressive image...when it was the first municipality in Ohio to approve a city income tax. . . ."

Wow! A local income tax really IS progressive!

Ooops, I forgot: "progressive" is the name American socialists call themselves these days. Actually, I know a lot of Americans who wouldn't think that bragging about a municipal income tax is very progressive in a dictionary sense of the word.
 
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Its obvious that communism never died - it just changed its name to public health and just like the old Pravda in the Soviet Union - the Toledo Blade, The New York Times, The Boston Globe, etc. obediently spew their propaganda. How curious too that Pravda means Truth - the same name given ALF's anti- campaign.
 
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Years ago, when I was young (<sob>Wink, I worked one summer for an elderly lawyer, cleaning his offices after school. He was always puffing on a pipe or a big cigar. I was in his office one day, and he was reading the paper. He suddenly said, out of the blue-"You know, Dave....if Russia ever goes free...this country is going to go communist." At the time, I thought he was nuts. Today, I believe he was a true seer & prophet.


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You know what, Dave? I heard the same thing from people in my parents' generation when I was a kid. (And I hadn't thought about or remembered that until you just now mentioned it.) I didn't think it possible, either.
 
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I had always heard they'd take us from within, without a shot being fired. How true!!!!
 
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With all due respect to Dave Clark, Toledo is a city I've never heard anything said of it, but as a joke. -Squeezer
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No offense taken, Sqeeze, it's sadly true. The ONLY time Frogtown ever makes nationwide news is when it's something bad, dumbass, or just plain backward.


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#38 (gettin' closer to the election) You'll note thatthe rag keeps referring to a "repeal" ...what the small/local bar/restaurant owners want is an AMENDMENT or MODIFICATION, yet the rag will continue to call it a "repeal" of the ban. But...when did facts ever get in the way of the Block family or their employees?:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040907/OPINION02/409070311/-1/ARCHIVES30


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Originally posted by dave clark:
#38 (gettin' closer to the election) You'll note thatthe rag keeps referring to a "repeal" ...what the small/local bar/restaurant owners want is an AMENDMENT or MODIFICATION, yet the rag will continue to call it a "repeal" of the ban. But...when did facts ever get in the way of the Block family or their employees?:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040907/OPINION02/409070311/-1/ARCHIVES30


On that same page was a link to this article that tells of many businesses and how they've avoided the smoking ban in Toledo.

And you're right Dave, the Blade staff is lying about it being a repeal of the ban.
 
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#39:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040916/OPINION02/409160380


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