Bas$&#*s....and I'd STILL like to know why they bother banning smoking in manufacturing plants (other than around fire hazards)...like the air there is sooooooo fresh and clean and lily white....whatever.....just another way to put down the working class....

#40:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040923/OPINION02/409230378

#41:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040929/OPINION02/409290313

#42 (front page):

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040926/NEWS32/409260397/-1/ARCHIVES30

#43 (same day):
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040926/ART16/409250327/-1/ARCHIVES30

#44 (same day):

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040926/ART16/409260302/-1/ARCHIVES30

#45 (same day):

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040926/ART16/409260301/-1/ARCHIVES30

#46, Sunday, Oct.10th (HUGE article, front page:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041010/NEWS08/410100348/-1/ARCHIVES30

#47:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041017/OPINION02/410170355/-1/ARCHIVES30

"They can accept the complaints of bar owners that their businesses have been hurt, a dubious claim at best. Or, they can reject that myopic point of view by voting NO on Issue 4 and proudly endorse what may be the most significant defense of public health in this community's history."

The whole point of having a business, of working, is to MAKE MONEY!

Myopic point of view? What a bunch of freaking nuts!

#48, from the rag's puppet cartoonist:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041031/OPINION01/41031014

And, here it is-the one I told you all was coming...on the FRONT PAGE of the Sunday paper-#49:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041031/NEWS08/410310386/-1/ARCHIVES30

LAST POST

Post-Election spin from the rag:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041105/OPINION02/411050302/-1/ARCHIVES30

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Post-Election spin from the rag:

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041105/OPINION02/411050302/-1/ARCHIVES30

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"THE narrow rejection of the City of Toledo's ban on smoking in public places sends a troubling message to the state and the nation."

ATTENTION RESIDENTS OF TOLEDO! ATTENTION!

You can sleep well tonight. Speaking on behalf of my city, my state and the whole nation: Honestly, we don't care. We didn't even notice.

"This community...has abdicated its position as a pioneer in that effort."

I get the feeling the Toledo Blade thinks Toledo is the only occupant in the universe. The entire state of California certainly beats Toledo when it comes to smoking bans, to name just one state. And then there's all those cities in the other states.

"Issue 4, in effect, has gutted the city's year-old smoking ban, which is especially upsetting because a ban in Columbus - a measure considered even tougher than Toledo's - was easily approved by 10 percentage points."

Maybe because they haven't had to live with the consequences yet?

"Despite abundant publicity before the election...some voters were confused about just what a "yes" vote meant..."

Then no doubt some voters were confused about just what a "no" vote meant.

"But as Dr. David Grossman, Toledo-Lucas County health commissioner, correctly noted after the vote, the only jobs that will be protected by the effective repeal of Toledo's ban will be health-care professionals who tend to those who get sick and die from smoking and the debilitating effects of breathing secondhand smoke."

I'm curious. How many health-care professionals were laid off while this ban was in place? Any?

You know, in all the editorials in the blade, I have never seen so much as even a "hint" that those who are offended by "ETS" simply avoid establishments that permit smoking. I mean, really, if so many in Toledo live in terror of tobacco smoke, I would expect bars that allow it to quickly go broke. Right? How would they ever survive without the business of the niconazis? They used to claim society would be "smoke free" by 2000; now, the target year appears to be 2014. Odds are excellent that I'll still be alive in 2014, and I'll still be smoking. So the nut cases will miss another deadline.

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They used to claim society would be "smoke free" by 2000; now, the target year appears to be 2014...and I'll still be smoking. So the nut cases will miss another deadline.

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Or by 2014 they'll have every tobacco user institutionalized for being a danger to themselves and others. Let's hope their money runs out by then.

Maybe they'll be targeting everyone by then.

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I do not like George Bush and his policies, but one has to ask my neighbors in uptown NYC: you still wonder why he won and why people have a distaste for "liberals;" and why no one outside of NY, SF and Boston likes Hillary Clinton?

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Good point Hickory. Bush actually did better in many of these solidly blue states this time around than in 2000, getting between 40 and 49% of the vote everywhere except Massachusetts and even there he did better than in 2000 37% vs 32%. Certainly these votes didn't all come from gun toting, gay bashing, bible thumping rednecks-but the self-righteousness of the we know whats best for everyone liberals probably didn't help the dems, even in their strongholds.