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Six Infections Linked to Heart Disease
Death rate jumps 7-fold when exposed to all 6
http://www.healthscout.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Af.woa?id=93022&ap=24
 
Posts: 1051 | Location: Alta Loma, CA USA | Registered: Sat February 05 2000Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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And as you know, Spinner, not one of those six infections was considered -- let alone adjusted for -- in the CDC's infamous smoking-related heart disease deaths.

Did you see the latest, that Vitamin C supplements may also contribute to heart disease? It was reported at a recent American Heart Association conference. (Vitamin C 'Causes Heart Disease,' 3-20-00, The Scotsman)

Click here for the article (It takes forever to download.)

I don't know about anyone else but I've become a bit jaded about what ANY study says anymore. I think a noted researcher at Harvard's School of Public Health got it right when he admitted that "We tend to overstate findings, either because we want attention or more grant money." (NY Times, 10-11-95, p. C1)

Martha
 
Posts: 1412 | Location: Connecticut | Registered: Fri February 04 2000Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I knew if I searched long enough I would find the Delaware Department of Health's "Plan for a tobacco-free Delaware." It's a 40 page document (I don't have URL with me - I'll post it later for anyone who's interested)

I just couldn't resist highlighting some of one of the lists: "The ABC's of Tobacco's Health Hazards"

"The following diseases and conditions have been scientifically linked to tobacco use:

Alheimer's disease
Breast Cancer
Cervical Cancer
Death and Disability
Ear infections in Children
Fertility problems
Genetic Damage
hearing loss
Impotence
Jittery nerves
knee Reflex depression, etc., etc., etc.,"

There is a whole list under each letter of the alphabet - but the one I really had to laugh about was the letter Z.

OK everyone - tobacco use causes - tada - ZITS.

I have now heard everything.
 
Posts: 1889 | Location: Virginia | Registered: Tue February 08 2000Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Gabz, I’m sure none of us are surprised.

Heck, if I had it, I could take a billion dollars and hundreds of researchers to show you that perfume or flowers or cologne or BO or, well you get the idea. It would be very easy to show a correlation using numbers that anything is bad. Especially when one sets out to prove a correlation.

All it takes is money, and boy do the Anti have money. Ours!

If it wasn't so demented, it might actually be funny.
 
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Boomer, normally I would agree with you, except for the fact that they give ABSOLUTELY NO references for any of these things.

None, nada, nil, zilch.

That's what bothers me more than anything.
 
Posts: 1889 | Location: Virginia | Registered: Tue February 08 2000Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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As to vitamin C causing heart disease, consider the source of the claim...our financially biased friends at the AHA.

Drs. Linus Pauling and Mathias Rath both
diasgree with the AHA claim. Keep in mind that ONE triple bypass operation nets the Medical-Industrial complex about $60,000.00 and that ONE gram of vitamin C cost about ten cents.

You are familiar with the vitamin C deficiency disease, scurvy. Due to a lack of vitamin C, the collagen which holds the arteries together breaks down, and the capilaries rupture and start leaking blood. In sub-acute cases of vitamin C deficiency, small cracks appear in the arteries, which the organism attempts to patch with cholesterol... ergo-atherosclerosis. These micro-fissures could possibly be the mechanism by which the opportunistic orgamisms described above infect the arteries. Think about it.

[DISCLAIMER- I am not a medical doctor, just a well informed child of GOD who likes to think for himself. If you require medical advice, visit a competent medical authority, if you can find any such thing.]
 
Posts: 534 | Location: Los Angeles | Registered: Thu February 10 2000Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Maybe some scientific study will find that there's a high correlation between adolesence and future adult activities like sex & reproduction, driving, loud music, high heels and/or baggy jeans, pizza consumption and other nonPC stuff. Including smoking. So maybe the entire history of the world (at least since 1482) can be blamed on tobacco. And some scuzzy lawyers can take home billions more after their quiet thank you to the junk science crew.
 
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