Fascism Is Over ... If We Want It

Many times, when I explain to people what's going on in our country today, they at first argue that things aren't really that bad, and that America could never go fascist.

After a couple of examples about what's been happening recently, and a brief overview of what fascism actually means, they get it.

But then they shrug their shoulders and say "there's nothing I can do", hoping that that's the end of discussion.

Are they right? Is there nothing we can do about fascism? Should we just hunker down and try to survive it?

Well, first of all, there is something we can do to break free of the fascist concrete which has been poured over America, before it really hardens.

Here is just one example:
2 million Americans could all peacefully surround the White House and Capitol Hill, and hold signs saying "we're not leaving until the Constitution and the rule of law are restored".
1 million people surround the White House. 1 million more surround Capitol Hill. Everyone wears red, white and blue to show that we are pro-America (and because it will be such a sight to see that the news cameras will be attracted like flies to honey).

If that happened, the spell of fascism would be broken, things would start to get done, and America would be freed. Says who?

Well, its happened repeatedly throughout history whenever people have been willing to stand up. The Ukranian people stood up to tyranny and won. The East German people stood up to tyranny and won. The people of the Philippines, Serbia, Czechoslovakia, Indonesia and other countries around the world have won against tyranny whenever ordinary people have poured into the streets in massive numbers and demanded freedom.

And here in the U.S., even though Nixon said he didn't care what the American people thought, he backed off on dropping a nuclear bomb on Vietnam when hundreds of thousands of people turned out to protest an escalation of the war.

But, but . . .

Now you might raise all sorts of potential problems with this option. I'll get to that in a minute. However, I want to stress that if 2 million people did this, it would work, and the fact that we're not doing it is only proof that we're too lazy or lack the commitment to do anything.

Okay, here are some possible objections and rebuttals to the objections . . .

1. There has never been that large a protest. We can't organize that many people.

With the web, we can do it.

2. If we use the web to organize, it would be infiltrated.

Well, with government already spying on our web usage, emails and phones, of course it would be infiltrated. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't do it.

3. Police might try to disrupt the protest.

Yes, they probably will try. That's why everyone should bring cellphone cameras or videocams. If police turn violent or use agents provocateur to incite violence, we film it all, and broadcast it worldwide on the web. That would make the government look really, really bad. Also, everyone should sign paper pledges in advance to be peaceful and not use any violence under any circumstance. And if you see anyone trying to incite violence, have a group of people escort them away from the protest.

4. Too busy, don't have the time off from work, or don't have the money to participate.

Yes, we might have to call in sick to work, spend some scarce funds, rearrange or cancel some commitments. It might be a sacrifice, but we could do it if we really wanted to.

There are many other possible objections, but there are responses to all of them. In short, it is doable and would be effective.

Conclusion

The bottom line is that it is not true that we are powerless or that there is nothing we can do to prevent fascism from consolidating its hold on the United States.

The option of surrounding the White House and Capitol Hill with millions of peaceful protesters is only one of many options which would turn things around. If we are not implementing such options, it is because we don't really care, or don't want to be bothered, or are not really committed to saving our country. It is not because there is nothing we can do.

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/01/fascism-is...r-if-we-want-it.html

Excellent and well thought out, Claude. I noticed you are a couple of years old in your membership. Too bad we don't see you around more often.

If we are going to get two million people together, first of all two have to get together, then 20, then 200, 2000 etc. The web is great tool, but relationships that start on the web tend to stay on the web.

How you will help us all to start meeting face to face, at least through local or local/regional meetings at first, or at the very least for starters via telephone? What have you found the hold up to be?

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Excellent and well thought out, Claude. I noticed you are a couple of years old in your membership. Too bad we don't see you around more often.

I was here a lot more til the smoking ban was implemented here. Ever since then, weve been trying to figure out which direction to go to overturn the ban or at least scale it back as much as possible. Organizing is difficult. Its depressing. Anti smoking nazis have a lot of energy and hatred for anyone who opposes them. Ive never quite seen anything like it b4. Ill slowly start being around here more. I need new ideas. Our local anti's hate me with a passion. See for yourself.

http://65.36.138.212/publicus/chat/read/index.asp?Threa...80107&ForumType=Chat

And as far as them hating me with a passion, i couldnt be happier.

I also enjoyed your post Claude. I don't know that we will jump right to Fascism, maybe Communism first.

I find it enlightening to see someone that talks organization. Quite obviously that is what is needed.

The best thing about the new posts is that people are really seeing the freedom side and getting away from the smoking side. The smoking still has to be fought concerning bans, taxes, and the like but more importantly some are posting on the smoking sites about liberty, freedom, and rights.

I have a site you might be interested in. It is in my profile, I prefer not to splash it in the posts on someone else's site.

I am with you anyway so you have one vote.

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The smoking still has to be fought concerning bans, taxes, and the like but more importantly some are posting on the smoking sites about liberty, freedom, and rights.

If you've ever tried to share an umbrella, either one person gets more rained on, or both end up half wet, unless they are lovers and may cuddle close.

Have you ever been the owner of an umbrella and have to share it with someone who always seems to "forget" to bring their own?

That's how I see it if we smokers rights people try to position ourselves under the general umbrella of liberty and freedom in lieu of any efforts of our own.

Individuality is a wonderful thing. After seeing what they have done to smoker's I think everyone knows what is going on, at least smoker's do.

I often look at the attack on smoking by the government more as a control issue than a smoking ban.

Maybe our government isn't, but it seems that they just want more and more control over the people.

Even a forum like this needs moderation to keep some sort of order to things. People do need some of leadership.

I don't think we need the government quite as deep into our personal lives.

I don't want to upset anyone on this site, it is the best I have found, so I post on my own site where people are free to read or not.

The ideas behind this site are to me, awesome, but I still feel the job of government is to run the country, and not quite so much, our personal lives.