I am a young mom with a 4 year old and a 2 year old and I am seeking a little advice especially from any other moms who want to respond.

I have never smoked in the house or any other closed space since having kids. Then a few weeks ago I had a get together and after the kids were asleep my friend convinced me to light up inside and then she lit up too. I felt guilty and kind of excited at the same time, like I was being naughty or something. Then the next day I ended up smoking in the house again. Then the other day I was taking a trip to the mall which is a bit of a drive with the kids in the backseat and I needed a cigarette and didn't feel ike stopping. So I smoked in the car. I have not smoked in the house or car since but I think I will probably cave in again soon. Any thoughts?

On the chance you're for real:

I'm not a mom (I am a dad) but I can say without hesitation that anti-tobacco sure has worked its magic on you.

Let me be the first to guess that karenlyons is really Karen's lying.

I am a dad and a son of a smoker. I had no problems smoking around my son and I worked at home until he got asthma. This was 25 years ago and I was pushed outside to smoke on a patio. We had installed the most up todate air cleaners in the apartment available at the time. I couldn't take it and started smoking in my office. I do software support and the worse thing I can do is get irritated with the person I am dealing with on the phone about their problems with their computer. Calls take take up to 12 hours and in order to deal with them I smoke, grind my teeth, and practically press the receiver thru my head. But I get excellant results with customers and high praise for my patience.

The situation changed when my wife and I separated. My office was in the living room and I smoked as much as I wanted. My son visited daily, I picked him up from school and his mother would pick him up on her way home. He never had an episode during those years and later took up the habit himself.

I am 59 and 1 of 7 children of a smoking mother. None of us had any problems. My mother died at the age of 83 of boredum. I did not have one freind who did not have a smoking parent. Smoking was everywhere. I attended Catholic school and was surprised, while in high school, to see the nuns smoking in our house while drinking a beer.

Expect problems with family and friends if you smoke around your children. Smokers are no longer allowed to enjoy the habit anywhere, especially aroung the next generation.

Expect even more problems once your children are in school and fed the knowledge that you are killing yourself and them by smoking.

Smoking has acquired a stigma and your children will suffer if you smoke. Raise them to be independant thinkers. Expect them to be medicated in school if they express views contrary to the propaganda. Arm yourself and them with the facts about smoking. In the long run the medications used in schools effects the brain the same way that nicotine from smoking does, if your children really need it.

I did not start smoking until I was 21 and only realised afer giving it up what a help it would have been to me if I had smoked while in school. I spent my life as a student with constant tutors for reading. I can not concentrate to read without smoking, this is what I learned when I had stopped. I became a voracious reader after I started smoking and I stopped reading when I stopped smoking. I took up both habits again about a year ago.

In my lifetime I have never met anyone with lung cancer. My family has included smokers for at least four generations without any incidence of ill health from it. Research your own history, apply the facts you learn from reading this site and Forces.org.

When an anti-smoker questions your beliefs, ask them how many lung cancer victums they know?

Be careful with air purifiers - they remove the pollutants in the space where they are but also condition the immune systems of those in their presence to forget about pollutants as well. My allergies are better than when I did not smoke, but I have a much harder time dealing with pollen seasons when away from my air cleaners. Make sure your children spend a lot of ime outside in the polluion to strengthen their immune systems. Any problems they have will immediately be blamed on your smoking.

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Originally posted by squeezer:
On the chance you're for real

That's an obvious and clumsy fake trying to play mind games here. The karenlyons-bot is merely dramatizing the latest talking points of "her" extortion racket: smoking with kids in the house and in the car. If the "Karen's" puppetiers can sneak this one into the laws (and they will if we do as we did so far i.e. nothing that really hurts the thieves), the nicotine patches & gum sales... fines and taxes will explode, and many more of our billions will go to "Karen's" bosses, the big pharma, with a few crumbs to their "health" puppets.

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I am a young mom with a 4 year old and a 2 year old and I am seeking a little advice especially from any other moms who want to respond.

No you are not..........you are a troll trying to make moms who happen to be smokers look like the devil incarnate.

Gabz, kind of reminds me of the two snakes over on the Iwon/iwhine boards..


Oh Karen how many more hoops are you going to jump through and kowtowing to the anti's

what is it that your wanting here applause for breaking the anti's inturpitation of how lowlifes moms are for smoking in the house with there kids or you wanting acceptance for following your own instinks knowing that smoking in a room with your children isn't going to harm them any more than your kid playing with the neibor kid that has a snotty nose who is sneezeing all over your child..

Jemeyes you NAILED it!!!!

Is it any wonder smokers as a group have no clout when even smokers agree with the whining, snivelling antis?????