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Has anybody seen the Truth commercial (the vulgar named Truth campaign series) with a guy in a Sesame Street-like costume who "proves" (I guess) that Joe Camel was really aimed at kids? Adults don't want anything to do with him, but 5 year old kids do. I'm assuming that's what they're driving at with this commercial.

Or it has to do with The Muppets. He says something about smoking being shown in The Muppet Movie. Big Tobacco getting their products into movies I guess.

I wasn't familiar with theThe Muppet Movie so I looked it up and found this article:

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March 22, 1998

By RAJA MISHRA Knight Ridder Newspapers

The cigar that juts from the mouth of actor Olson Welles as he eyes Kermit the Frog in the "The Muppet Movie" may have been a gift from Philip Morris. The tobacco company supplied the filmmakers with tobacco products, according to newly released company documents. Similar deals were made for "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?," "Die Hard," "Crocodile Dundee" and dozens of other films that, despite being rated PG or R, had huge youth audiences. The arrangements continued through at least 1988 despite pledges by the film industry not to deal with tobacco companies.

Philip Morris has long said it does not target children, but critics believe that deals like these have helped the company circumvent bans on such advertising.

"We know the cigarette companies deny paying to have their brand name appear. They deny advertising to kids. But they get the cigarettes in the movies," said Stanton Glantz, a professor at the University of California at San Francisco who has studied smoking in films.

"A kid coming away from the movies today will have the impression that everyone smokes." "The Muppet Movie" deal raises eyebrows because it is a movie clearly for children. The 1979 film chronicles Kermit the Frog's journey from the swamp to Hollywood. All the main characters, including Miss Piggy and Gonzo the Great, are colorful puppets. Cigars appear in the mouths of three human characters: a bartender, a used-car salesman, and the Hollywood mogul played by Welles.

Does Philip Morris make cigars?

Did Orson Welles smoke cigars in real life? From Cigar Aficionado Online:

"Welles was a lover of the good life, especially fine cigars; he intentionally wrote cigar-smoking characters, such as Touch of Evil's police captain Hank Quinlan, into his films."

And finally, did you catch the year that movie was made? 1979. I believe these people are really starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel: A movie made nearly 30 years ago. A movie with only three smoking characters in it and one for sure was an unabashed cigar smoker. And once again, Does or did Philip Morris make cigars? The only thing I found (from the Altria website (Philip Morris) was this:
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Philip Morris, Esq., a tobacconist and importer of fine cigars, opens a shop on Bond Street in London.

I'm sure those cigars have all been sold. Smile
 
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I smoke cigars and I have NEVER seen any that said PM on them. Believe they stopped making 'em long ago.


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I saw that vile piece of propaganda.

What a bunch of garabage. It's been running non-stop in OheilO, along with those ignorant "OheilO tobacco quit-line ads".

I could just vomit. It's gotten to the point I don't even turn on the radio. I put in a CD instead.



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Originally posted by 383rr:
I saw that vile piece of propaganda.

What a bunch of garabage. It's been running non-stop in OheilO, along with those ignorant "OheilO tobacco quit-line ads".

383rr, can you beat these numbers? I wrote this 4 years ago about my state. It's quieted down since.

From a May 2003 post:

"I just wrote every politician in my state that I saw 7 state-funded anti-smoking commercials in less than one hour and yet the antis complain of budget cuts. I saw 4 in 15 minutes once."
 
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Joe Camel was never worse than Ronald McDonald. Oh, wait a minute. It's ok to entice kids into eating crap that has enough cholesterol to kill a whale.
 
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I thought the "Truth" commercials had gone off the air a couple of years ago, once the cig companies were no longer obligated to fund them? I always thought they were so over the top that nobody in their right mind believed them and they were mocked by their target, 12-18 yo audience too. Those commercials have probably gotten more kids to start smoking than the Muppet Movie ever did.
 
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Nick,
ALF still has something like a billion dollars sitting in the bank. They probably have it worked out to where they won't be out of business until CEO Cheryl Healton (or whatever her name is) has a chance to repay her mortgage loan back to ALF.
 
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Go out of business? When has a "do good" outfit gone out of business? While there was still money to keep burocrats in style that is. Usually excuses can be found to justify high saleries, good benefits, lot's of travel, comfy offices and a few crumbs toward the ostensible cause.
 
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