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hum testing whole cities to see what sort of drugs people are using... maybe its more like to see which cities are complying with the smoking ban..


Scientists drug-test whole cities


WASHINGTON - Researchers have figured out how to give an entire community a drug test using just a teaspoon of wastewater from a city's sewer plant.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070822/ap_on_sc/citywide_d...1durIr69bskVVM.s0NUE


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Posts: 634 | Registered: Wed July 14 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Sounds like another farce to generate research grants.

I take the generic form of clariton-d each day and expect that since the drug commonly know as "Met" is derived from the "d" component of the medication and this is allergy season that high concentrations could be found.

If these drugs can be identified in measurable amounts in waste water generated by thousands of people then why can't these and other components be isolated from the air?

Are these components then removed from the processed water before it leaves the treatment plant?

If prescription drugs are found it would indicate that patients are taking higher doses than needed to serve their needs.
 
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And God-forbid the local grocery store has a sale on Poppyseed Pound cake or Bagels the week they test....Everyone will be viewed as Morphine addicts.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/poppyseed.asp
 
Posts: 306 | Registered: Sun August 27 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Originally posted by Bruce Fox:
If these drugs can be identified in measurable amounts in waste water generated by thousands of people then why can't these and other components be isolated from the air?

Are you asking why can't all of the supposed chemicals in SHS be identified? If so, I agree, why not?
 
Posts: 3755 | Location: Wisconsin | Registered: Fri May 10 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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The Fourth Amendment reads:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

The Fifth Amendment reads:

"No person shall be...compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

Not that anyone in power cares about The Constitution any more, but I think a good argument can be made that, without just cause for investigation of a crime, the government doesn't have the right to take samples of people's bodily fluids and create legislation in the light of information gathered from it.

They'll get away with it though.


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Please read this in it's entirety.

http://www.norcalblogs.com/post_scripts/archives/2007/08/how_to_catch_a_1.html

How to catch a wild hog...
August 15, 2007
By Lowell E. Hedges

I can best explain my concern about the new congress's agenda, by using this analogy given to me by a former student of mine. Several years ago I was supervising a
beginning teacher in a city school system.

One day during our end-of-the-day feedback conference, the young man gave a facial grimace and began to rub his back. I asked him if he had strained his back in the
school lab.

After a long period of silence, he sat down at his desk and explained that he had immigrated to the United States because of political problems in his native country. The discomfort in his back was caused by a bullet wound he had received while fighting the Communists who were trying to take over his country's government. He was then a member of the underground nationalist force.

Then he asked me a surprising question: "Dr. Hedges, do you know how to catch a wild hog?"

The question was completely out of context regarding the day's classroom and lab teaching. I replied, "I'm not sure what you are talking about. Tell me?"

"First," he said, "you find out where the wild hogs are roaming and feeding and then you put some corn out in the field. Soon they will come to eat the corn. You keep putting out the free corn. More wild hogs keep coming to eat the corn."

"So what?" I said. "That's normal for any animal."

"Be patient. I will tell you what comes next," he said.

"After the hogs get used to your free corn, you put up a length of fence along one side of the feeding area. The hogs get used to it. You keep giving them the corn. Then you put up another section of fence at right angles to the first. You keep giving them the corn. The hogs get used to the second fence. Then you put up another length of fence at right angles to the second section. You now have a U-shaped fenced area. The hogs get used to that section of the fence.

You keep giving them free corn. Then you put another section of fence with a gate in it, making a closed area except for the gate. You keep giving them corn. Now, the hogs no longer are out in the fields, working to find their own food. They keep coming into the area to eat the free corn.

They get used to the fenced area with the open gate. Then, one day you slam shut the gate when the hogs are inside the fenced area.

The wild hogs are caught - they are your prisoners." I understood then that the wild hogs were really the people of his native country and that the free corn was the
enticements that the Communists were giving to the people.

"That's correct," the young man said. "Now, the hogs will not get anything to eat unless you give them food. You are in control. They depend on you to feed them, or they will starve. They can't get out into the fields and forests anymore to find their own food. They have probably forgotten how, as it is.

They are your servants, your prisoners. They must obey you. Or else they starve. "The hogs," he said, "were so accustomed to having the free corn, that they ignored the building of the fences that would eventually trap them.

When the gate slammed shut, it was too late for them to realize what they had been blind to.

The free corn was enticing, so effortless to obtain, but eventually the cause of their loss of freedom. The fence had been built; the gate had been shut."

At this point in our conversation, the young teacher, in a voice shaking with emotion and with fists hitting the desktop, loudly exclaimed, "This is what I see happening in America today! People are being offered free corn by the government. People are being blind to the fences being built around them by the liberals - the socialists - and that is what frightens me! Just like it was happening in my homeland.

The American people do not learn from history. And history shows that socialism/communism does not work. Take note of Russia. Has socialism been the best thing that ever happened to that country? Absolutely not! But socialism is what the America an people are being fed, and they don't realize it. All they can focus on is the 'free corn.' They want more and more of the free corn. And this free corn is being fed to us little by little, and soon the gate will slam shut.

I am very frightened, and also amazed, that the American people don't see what is being fed us, and for what purpose." With that said, the young man sat down at his desk and continued to rub his painful back.

And I was silent in my chair. And afraid. For I could visualize the supposedly "free corn" being fed to our nation's people and our growing addiction to the "free corn". And I could see the gate being slammed shut.

We, the people of the United States of America, because of our ignorance of history, because of our addiction to the supposedly "free corn," could soon be prisoners of liberal socialism.

Along with this fighter for freedom from socialism/communism, I too, wanted to slam my fists on the desktop and cry out in a loud voice for all to hear, "Wake up, America! The fences are being built! Don't you see what is happening to us?"

In the agenda of the new Congress there is much "free corn" being promised the American people. In our greed for this "free corn," will we ignore the incremental building of the fences and the inevitable shutting of the gate?

As I ponder the building of the fences now underway by the new Congress, I remember the old adage, there is always free cheese in a mousetrap."

It seems the only thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history.

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Lowell E. Hedges is a retired associate professor of teacher education and a former superintendent of Elgin Local Schools
 
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WOW....the easiest, most clear, picture perfect explanation I have ever seen!
This needs to go out everywhere....
Thank you so much for sharing it today!
 
Posts: 126 | Location: Madison, WI | Registered: Wed September 07 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Reminds me of the frog in the pot that won't jump out if you let the water come steadily to a boil, then will sit there and boil to death. Good story. Thanks.


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