NYC Doorman Suspended for Bad Breath
AP
Posted: 2007-12-07 15:51:07
NEW YORK (AP) - A Manhattan doorman has been suspended for having bad breath. Jonah Seeman, who has been ushering tenants into a four-building complex on East 89th Street for 40 years, was told not to come to work Friday because of halitosis.
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Smoking bans put smokers outside of bars and restaurants because there is no safe level of exposure to smoke.

Next we will see antis pushing for smokers to not be re-admitted because they have 'smoker's breath'.

Obviously, being exposed to SHS from a smoker's breath is just as much a health hazard as any other exposure.

I will not be at all surprised when this happens.
Gary K.

Some antis have already suggested that secretions from the (smoker's) skin puts holding babies a risk. Risk of what? I don't know. They don't know either.

What utterly pathetic, ignorant savages.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/12/08/2007-12-08_b...returns_to_work.html

He got his job back very quickly...

Many smokers don't have that luxury, heck, Scott Rodrigues' lawsuit against Scott's Miracle Gro hasn't even hit the court system yet (as far as I've seen)

A note to all of the obsesive,compulsive,paranoid,weak stomached antis monitoring this forum.

It has been estimated that at least 60% of the particulate matter in room air is made up of flaked off dead human skin.

The next time you are in a restaurant or bar look at the people around you and consider the people who may have been sitting at your table before you.

Do you see that greasy,stinky,slimy looking person on your left, their dead skin cells will be settling onto your skin and into your hair,onto the food you eat and into whatever you drink.

Cigarette smoke should be the least of your worries!!

Hope you enjoy your night out!!
Gary K.

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LOL

You are 100% Right Gary
This needs to be posted on every newspaper message board where people whine about SHS

ROFL

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The next time you are in a restaurant or bar look at the people around you and consider the people who may have been sitting at your table before you.

Do you see that greasy,stinky,slimy looking person on your left, their dead skin cells will be settling onto your skin and into your hair,onto the food you eat and into whatever you drink.

We do all realize that this is the way many of the hard-core "environmentally sensitive" already think? Right?

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Originally posted by WinstonSmith:
We do all realize that this is the way many of the hard-core "environmentally sensitive" already think? Right?

Sure do, but the general public doesn't.
The "I think I'm sensitive-but I'm really not" Crowd

Of course it will need to be toned down

Remember this article that was written yesterday and 5 years from now see how far the government and regulators have gone.
The charities and regulators need to scare to pay the mortgage, this article says there's a concern but there isn't a concern.
So the next step for them is "How do we ramp up the concern and how can we make money doing it?"
"Tobacco is now off our plate for indoors, what's our next target - I need to pay my bills"
How clean is the air in your office?

Look at the language used in that article gilster linked. Here's the opening.

Office workers spend eight hours a day marinating in carcinogens and chemical substances. Photocopiers emit ozone. Printers spew ultrafine particulates. Furniture and computers stew in brominated flame-retardants.

Just how dangerous is this chemical cauldron?

Marinating in carcinogens...emit....spew...stew...chemical cauldron(you know; like a witch stirs up bat ears and eyes of ogres in.)

See how enlightened you are now? When you go to work on Monday, you get to be smarter than all of your co-workers because you aren't as innocent as they are. You'll know that you're harmless office is really a battleground for human existence itself. How exciting!

What a bunch of crap.

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Originally posted by squeezer:
Some antis have already suggested that secretions from the (smoker's) skin puts holding babies a risk. Risk of what? I don't know. They don't know either.

What utterly pathetic, ignorant savages.

I may have posted similar comments before, but I suggest the following to the Anti's:

1) If you suffer from frequent heartburn, this can erode the esophagus. Therefore, avoid sharing a room with anyone eating red-hot burritos. If they should happen to fart in your direction, the fumes you smell from this deadly gas will cause esophageal cancer.

2) If you are getting ready to drive somewhere, make sure you can't smell alcohol on anyone's breath. If you can, then this means you've had just as much to drink as they have......

3) If you have high cholesterol, avoid walking within 6 blocks of any restaurant that emits odors of steak, bacon, or sausage. Similarly, avoid the outdoors if your neighbor is grilling hamburgers or bratwurst. The fumes could cause an instant heart attack.

4) Don't attend a fireworks show on the 4th of July. The smoke emitted will leave thousands of corpses slumped over in lawn chairs, on the ground, and on the hoods of cars. Similarly, avoid the outdoors when anybody within one square mile is burning leaves. It will kill you.

5) Don't waste money on weed-control sprays for your lawn. Let your neighbor half a block down spray his yard. It will drift over to your yard and kill your weeds, too.

6) If you suffer from diabetes, don't let anyone who has just had a Pepsi belch toward you. The resultant elevation in blood-sugar could put you into a coma, followed by death....

I could go on and on.

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Originally posted by Pat:

2) If you are getting ready to drive somewhere, make sure you can't smell alcohol on anyone's breath. If you can, then this means you've had just as much to drink as they have......

Come on, Pat, you're exaggerating. That's only if you've been in the same room with them for 8 hours.

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Originally posted by WinstonSmith:
See how enlightened you are now? When you go to work on Monday, you get to be smarter than all of your co-workers because you aren't as innocent as they are. You'll know that you're harmless office is really a battleground for human existence itself. How exciting!

What a bunch of crap.

Remember in the 80's - early 90's when people started saying exactly that about smoking?
Remember when we all said "What a bunch of Crap"
back then?

Get a couple of whack-job individuals screaming about furniture out-gassing and chemical stews and how it's killing them - BINGO - a whole new industry is born. Desks need to be filled with regulators, administrators, activists, lawyers.
Society shifts to the next big story.
Headlines.
Lather-Rinse-Repeat

A note to all of the obsesive,compulsive,paranoid,weak stomached antis monitoring this forum.

It has been estimated that at least 60% of the particulate matter in room air is made up of flaked off dead human skin.

Lest you worry about worry about that 'dead skin' decaying, have no fear. In many restaurants and homes you are protected by Formaldehyde.
Formaldehyde is the stuff that they use to preserve dead bodies, yeech.

Formaldehyde is designated as a potential carcinogen. A cigarette delivers 20-90 micrograms(mcg) in mainstream smoke and up to 700 micro-grams(mcg) in sidestream smoke. A total of about 800 mcg

Gas ranges, for instance, release about 40,000 micrograms of formaldehyde per hour into our environment.

(Huber et al. \"Smoke and Mirrors.\" Regulation 16:3:44. 1993).

The 1999 Mass. Benchmark Study.Final Report 07/24/00




40,000 mcg(gas range) divided by 800 mcg(all the smoke from one cigarette) = 50 cigarettes.


A restaurant would likely have a 4 burner range. Not all of those burners will be on all of the time; so, let’s say the average is one burner all the time for a typical 12 hour period when the restaurant is open.

That one burner, per hour, would release the amount of formaldehyde equal to the amount in all of the smoke from 2½ packs of cigarettes.

For the 12 hours of operation that is 30 packs of cigarettes.

The cooks are not the only ones exposed to all of this formaldehyde, the food servers are constantly coming and going through the area dropping off and picking up orders.

The formaldehyde laden air will spread into the dining area and customers will also breathe it and the formaldehyde will 'EMBALM'those bits of dead skin.

A non-smoking Mother cooking over two burners of a gas range for one hour would release the amount of formaldehyde equal to all the smoke from about 5 packs of cigarettes.

A natural gas forced air furnace has a burner that is about 4 times the size of a stove top burner and it would produce, per hour, the amount of formaldehyde equal to all of the smoke from about 10 packs of cigarettes.

Of course, the furnace will not run continuously; so, let’s say that it runs 15 minutes out of every hour, 24 hours a day during cold weather.

That furnace will produce, per day, an amount of formaldehyde equal to the formaldehyde in all of the smoke produced by 60 packs of cigarettes.

Antismokers say that a Mother that smokes around her children is guilty of child abuse.

By that standard, a nonsmoking Mother that cooks with a gas stove and has a GFA furnace heating her house should be considered 'CRIMINALLY INSANE'.

Gary K.

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WinstonSmith quoted: "Office workers spend eight hours a day marinating in carcinogens and chemical substances. Photocopiers emit ozone. Printers spew ultrafine particulates. Furniture and computers stew in brominated flame-retardants."

You know, when the sidestream smoke bullshit really got rolling in the 'nineties, I wondered how long it would take for the hysteria to take off, come all the way around, and bite many of the same people who helped get it started in the ass. I think we've only begun to see the blowback from such ignorant foolishness.

I had to laugh when McDonald's was one of the first (maybe THE first) restaurant chains to ban smoking, and then turned out to be next on the list: Ronald McDonald peddles unhealthy food to children! Supersize me! We need a fat tax!

I also had to laugh when the term "Big Pharma" entered popular usage. I had thought I coined it myself (and in fact, I did), but it was just lying there waiting to be picked up. Like the telephone, it was one of those things that occurred to many people at the same time. Almost spooky, that.

Now the U.S., having scuttled its manufacturing and agricultural base (the latter, largely by outlawing hemp, and now tobacco), is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy. Only astronomical loans of Monopoly money from the Fed is keeping us afloat. That can't go on forever. They're scrambling, hoping nobody notices we're headed into a depression that makes the 'thirties look like a mild inconvenience. Once the panic starts, it's over. The U.S. economy is running on pure momentum. Its tank is dry.

Maybe when people are trying to decide whether they're going to eat their dog or develop a taste for insects, they'll have more important things to do than worry about a whiff of tobacco smoke. One can hope.

I think the economy has been artificially pumped up since the Klintons were in. The living-on-credit binge can't go on forever. And it won't be pretty when it's finally exposed. In Oheilo, we're close to depression status, and Michigan is even closer to bankruptcy than we are, so naturally, the most important things on the politicos minds is smoker bans. Destroy still more jobs and small business. Insanity. I remember way back in the late 80's, I'd be looking for a job, you could drive down any street in toledo, look to one side of the street and see another strip mall going up-or fast food or retail store-more part-time, minimum wage jobs with no benefits. Then you'd look to the other side of the street, and see still more condos or high-priced apartment complexes being built-rent about 500-600 a month. I said to myself back then "This CAN'T last much longer...the bottom HAS to drop out one of these days." And yet, it hasn't. It's STILL the same here, although it has slowed down a SLIGHT bit. They'll build another fast food joint, drugstore, or strip mall, and their closed and empty within a year. But then, since the depression, they've learned how to artifially pump things up, I guess. The stock market does fine, but everyone I know is struggling, and owns no stocks.

OheilO is depressed.

There is nothing here. I know of no less than 4 steel mills that have closed in the last 15 or so years. The coal industry played a major part in my area, and many mines have shut down.

Dave's right. All the jobs they add are minimum wage/ unskilled labor jobs. I used to laugh when klintoon used to go on about how many millions of jobs were created here in the US.

Heh, 80% of them were fast-food/service sector jobs.

When the bottom goes, it'll blow out with an un-before known force...and everyone will be wondering what the hell happened.

I can't see how everything has gone on as long as it has.

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Now the U.S., having scuttled its manufacturing and agricultural base (the latter, largely by outlawing hemp, and now tobacco), is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy. Only astronomical loans of Monopoly money from the Fed is keeping us afloat. That can't go on forever. They're scrambling, hoping nobody notices we're headed into a depression that makes the 'thirties look like a mild inconvenience. Once the panic starts, it's over. The U.S. economy is running on pure momentum. Its tank is dry.

If anyone wants proof positive of how short-sighted politicians and financial experts can be, simply look to the current mortgage crisis. They couldn't figure out that these people weren't going to be able to afford it when they're adjustable rate mortgages all went up? And, of course, because The Fed sets the interest rates, they were all going to go up at the same time.

These are the people who are going to save Social Security? Kiss that goodbye.

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These are the people who are going to save Social Security? Kiss that goodbye.

Truer words have never been spoken.

If you're much under forty now, my guess is that you'll never see a penny,(the age cap just keeps going up) even though you'll continue to pay into this ponzi scheme. You'd think that since you were basically forced to invest, you could expect some return. WRONG.

The government STOLE this money from you to start with, then they stole it again, to cover other pet pork projects.

The only time you hear about SS is when the campaigning politicos harp about it, and use it as a scare tactic. "Vote for me, all you 'ol folks, because the other guy wants to cut your SS, and throw your miserable old ass out in the cold". Heh.

Another wonderfully failed socialist experiment.