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Posts: 175 | Registered: Wed August 06 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Ah, me. The healthists are truly destroying pleasure wherever they find it. Even kids can't be allowed to have a good time, but must be preached to during their entertainment.
 
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Is Seasame Street implying that its show has been influencing children in a bad way? Then some parent with a fat kid should sue them for making their kid fat. <snicker>

In my house my wife and I have always been in charge of what goes in our kid's mouths. In other words, whether Cookie Monster ate cookies or green beans, it would have had no bearing on what our kids got to eat.
 
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In my house my wife and I have always been in charge of what goes in our kid's mouths. In other words, whether Cookie Monster ate cookies or green beans, it would have had no bearing on what our kids got to eat.


Exactly. But the nannies don't like for parents to have any power over their own kids, because nanny knows best.
 
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You often hear complaints by the nanny types of products "targeting children" .... yet, if a product get's a nanny stamp of approval, they don't mind in the least targeting children.

Their are folks today, that "demand" a say so, in the upbringing of your children.


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I dunno.

I don't see this as much as a "nanny" thing, but more as a conscious decision by PBS (or whoever produces Sesame Street) to "evolve" with the times.

Truth is, there are a lot of fat kids. Maybe adapting a role model (cookie monster) to whatever he is now might help??

Sure, they probably did it out of pressure from screaming mad soccer moms writing letters of disgust, but it is something that probably should have been done anyway.
 
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I dunno.

I don't see this as much as a "nanny" thing, but more as a conscious decision by PBS (or whoever produces Sesame Street) to "evolve" with the times.

Truth is, there are a lot of fat kids. Maybe adapting a role model (cookie monster) to whatever he is now might help??

Sure, they probably did it out of pressure from screaming mad soccer moms writing letters of disgust, but it is something that probably should have been done anyway.


yeah, i'm guessing you would say this because you and your wife can't cook anyway nor operate a microwave, so you need a role model like cookie monster showing you that vegetables are good for you. this is how simple people really are.
 
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Sure, they probably did it out of pressure from screaming mad soccer moms writing letters of disgust, but it is something that probably should have been done anyway.


I don't see why ... regardless if every kid, ate three bags of cookies while watching the show. It's not the responsibility of PBS to lecture kid's on what they should eat or not ... it's the parent's responsibility. Just stick to entertaining children and leave any food lecture to the parent.


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yeah, i'm guessing you would say this because you and your wife can't cook anyway nor operate a microwave, so you need a role model like cookie monster showing you that vegetables are good for you. this is how simple people really are.


austin girl, instead of coming after me, why don't you attack the issue?

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austin girl, instead of coming after me, why don't you attack the issue?

Let me give it a try.

The issue is: He's a COOKIE MONSTER!!! WTF is he supposed to eat?

You can teach kids all you want about nutrition, but it's the parents who do the cooking and I'm just guessing here, but I doubt many parents watch that show.

Cookies aren't making kids fat, they've been around for too many years. Maybe watching Sesame Street is what's making kids fat.
 
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thank you, squeezer, for at least addressing the question.

Valid point "watching sesame st. is what's making kids fat."

Get 'em outside on bikes, skates, snowboards, in pools, snowball fights, whatever. When I was a kid, watching TV was the LAST thing I wanted to do (unless a Twins game was broadcasted on a network station).
 
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Valid point "watching sesame st. is what's making kids fat."

Get 'em outside on bikes, skates, snowboards, in pools, snowball fights, whatever.

I'm not even sure if more kids are fat now than in the old days. Maybe someone can point me to the studies that have been done that show this.

This is anecdotal, but my kid's school district banned dessert to fight the "obesity epidemic" here. The funny thing is I never heard of one weigh-in or anything of the sort here to even give an inkling that the kids here are fat. It was just a panel of dumbshits who came up with this idea, based on nothing more than national news stories.

My daughter is in chorus. At her concert this winter there were over 100 kids on the stage. I counted 3 fat ones. It just didn't look like an epidemic to me.
 
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yeah, i'm guessing you would say this because you and your wife can't cook anyway nor operate a microwave, so you need a role model like cookie monster showing you that vegetables are good for you. this is how simple people really are.



austin girl, instead of coming after me, why don't you attack the issue?


Did I hit a little to close to home? maybe not, because you don't eat there. (only kidding) I'm just remembering your argument for why you're "obligated" to patron a bar or restaurant. remember that argument?? For someone who doesn't answer direct questions, you continue to make me laugh. Smile
you shouldn't feel threatened by someone who remembers what side of the coin you fall on.

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i had a daughter(my first child) and i NEVER let her have sweets! The first time she had some was her first birthday cake! I was 21yo. and trying to follow the "best" parenting propoganda.....well.....when she was 14 months old she died of SIDS. I looked back and realized that the poor kid never even experienced a lollipop!!!



I now have three more children,, all of whom had lollipops and other junk food. they are not fat or unhealthy, as a matter of fact they almost never go to the doctors!! at least 1/8th of the amount of times other kids go.

the bottom line is life is short(really short for some) its about experiencing pleasure and joys and having adventures before we die!! everyone does die you know. regaredless of how healthy you eat and i personally for myself and my kids want to enjoy myself as much as possible before that happens. that is a successful life and anyone who wants to regulate that can go live their safe, boring perfect lives and leave me alone...i'm having too much fun!


I walked a mile with pleasure,
she chattered all the way,
But left me none the wiser
For all she had to say.

I walked a mile with Sorrow
And ne'er a word said she;
But oh, the things I learned from her
When sorrow walked with me!
 
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Part of what makes an anti an anti, or the modern health religionist is they have a very difficult time accepting their own mortality. It's rather obvious when arguing with them.


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The issue is: He's a COOKIE MONSTER!!! WTF is he supposed to eat?

That was going to be MY point, squeezer, but you beat me to it. He's a god-damned PUPPET!! And the reason kids are getting fatter is because of VIDEO GAMES being the primary source of entertainment. Also throw in computers. I watched a hell of a lot of TV when I was a kid, but I got outside, as well. Today, you set on your ass and let the world come to you via the wonderful world of electronics.


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I now have three more children,, all of whom had lollipops and other junk food...its about experiencing pleasure and joys and having adventures before we die!!!

Same here with my kids. And on Friday and Saturday nights it's Pop and Candy Night.
 
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My kids (all girls) ate like linebackers when they were young, but they were thin as colts because they played so hard. I remember one at eight years old ate EIGHT loaded homemade tacos in one sitting.

When they were pre-adolescents, every Friday they blew their little weekly allowances on candy. Then when they reached adolescence, they could eat cookies whenever they wanted--provided they BAKED them from scratch (I didn't do no bakin' as a rule). I thought that was a great idea, if I do say so myself.

But the thing is, when I see grammar, middle and high school students pouring out of school at the end of the school day now, most of them are thin to medium, certainly not obese. The "obesity epidemic" is just another creation of the healthists to get more money and more control.
 
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That was going to be MY point, squeezer, but you beat me to it. He's a god-damned PUPPET!! And the reason kids are getting fatter is because of VIDEO GAMES being the primary source of entertainment.

Dave, I'll give you first shot at the next statement made on puppets. Big Grin

I have no doubt that video games, tv, etc. don't burn calories like basketball, but while my son likes to be very active, my daughter spends her time reading and writing. They're both skinny as hell. That's just my house though.

My own observations on myself have concluded: The more I'm physically active the more I eat. So it doesn't matter if I'm a couch potato or a marathon runner, my weight doesn't change by exercising.
 
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Squeezer, you lying, blasphemer!!!!!!!

You said, "So it doesn't matter if I'm a couch potato or a marathon runner, my weight doesn't change by exercising."

It's U N C O N S C I O N A B L E for you to utter an opinion like that! I say "opinion" because what you said CANNOT be a fact. It cannot be a fact, because the Gospel According to Healthism states clearly that in order to be healthy (and "healthy" means "of a certain ideal body weight for each given ideal body type at each given height") EVERYBODY HAS TO EXERCISE.

Dammit!

It's one thing for you to go around spouting nonsense about statistics and about smoking and about second-hand smoke. Nobody will believe you anyway so go right ahead. But it's entirely another thing to say something like "my weight doesn't change by exercising."

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